New Ford GPA engine F.S. !!

[bobassel]

I saw this on E bay F.S.
Looks like a GPA Engine with 6 blade fan and early oil filler.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/WWII-WIL ... enameZWDVW

Good luck ! Bob

[Mithril]

Yes, it is a GPA one. It is still in my data base.

I was previously on it but now it is on ebay and there is much to much people interrested.

[richardfs]

Hmm!

" New", could be a bit of a leap of faith. :roll: More than likely it was in a GPA,
removed, fitted up with 6 volt running gear, and then never used in either application????

I think I will pass. A rebuilt engine sounds much lower risk to me.

But it sure will be a conversation starter.

Regards
Richard.

PS Mithril did you get the engine photos I sent you?

[Mithril]

Yes Richard, just got it. I will update my (our) website soon.

[LincolnS]

Hello Gentlemen,

I am the seller of the engine on eBay. I am not restoring a GPA, but I joined to be able to answer any questions you may have about the engine, and to provide any additional photos to those who wish to have them for documentation.

I don't know the entire story about the engine, as my Grandfather passed in 1991 and I hadn't asked much about it before he died. I know he bought it war surplus sometime in the 50's. It was received, moved to the very aft area of the shop, and then proceeded to get all sorts of bits and items piled on top of it for the next 50+ years. The address on the crate is from Red River Arsenal in Texarkana, Texas to Litchfield, MN but I do not know how it made its way to North Dakota (it is now in Texas).

I had thought the engine was new until I pulled the spark plugs. It doesn't appear to be used much. I often wonder if it was just a test engine, and then the program was scrapped. Someone probably decided the GPA's the the Russians didn't get weren't worth keeping, but some use of the engines could be made.

Anyways, thank you for the time, and it has been a pleasant experience I have had been getting from all the enthusiasts of the fine vehicles, and the rich history lessons I have been getting. Thank you!!! Lincoln S

[Mithril]

Dear Lincoln, welcome here.

Is it possible to have from you a clear close up picture of the GPA number stamped near the oil filter ? I will use it to update my website data base.

Thank you.

[GPA2196]

Welcome Lincoln....

I was curious what kind of spark plugs are in the engine... are they marked QM-2 ?

Thanks,
Tony

[LincolnS]

Is it possible to have from you a clear close up picture of the GPA number stamped near the oil filter?

I will try.
I had to use a mirror to read the number. I may have to remove the engine from the crate to get a better shot. A really good photo could be made if I removed the oil filter cannister, but I don't think that is a good right now. I will try to photograph the image in the mirror, if that helps.

I was curious what kind of spark plugs are in the engine... are they marked QM-2 ?

Tony, they are Champions with red lettering. I will not be near the engine tonight, but will get a clear photo of the plugs for you tomorrow morning.

[LincolnS]

Mithril, I tried to photograph the serial, but the area is dark, and I couldn't get a clear shot either with the flash or without. I am afraid I would need to pull the oil filter to get a good one.

Tony, the plugs are indeed QM-2.

[LincolnS]

OK Gents, I borrowed a friend's camera that is much smaller than mine and can take photos a lot closer to the subject without getting blurry like mine does. I hope you enjoy this picture for your archives.

[Mithril]

Perfect picture, thank you so much.

[GPA2196]

Yes thanks very much for the confirmation...

Cheers,
Tony

[richardfs]

Lincoln,
Thank you for going to all this trouble of taking these photos and posting them. As I said in my previous post it sure is a conversation peice
especially with such a rich history.

It is certainly a good buy for some one who has a GPA and needs an engine wether it is near new or not.

The really great thing is you have made it available to a GPA owner who needs a motor. Far better it is sold on Ebay than ends up scrapped wheresome body else may not have realised its value.

I am sure I speak for many when I say "We all thank you for saving such a valuable part and making it available."

Best regards
Richard

[LincolnS]

I am sure I speak for many when I say "We all thank you for saving such a valuable part and making it available."

^You are making me blush!

I am hoping the new owner is willing to share some of the background of their project with me and maybe send a photo of the engine's "new home". I love learning history of WWII and I love to learn new things. I had never even heard of a G504 until very recently. Considering there were ~12000 made I think it is unusual that I hadn't. I looked through some of the photos on this website and it is really neat to see these vehicles in operation.

[Mithril]

Considering there were ~12000 made

... and maybe a little more than 300 still existing today on the whole Earth.

Lincoln, your engine datas and pictures are now on my updated website.